: Swine Flu, yet again
Prologue: These things are never as short as I intend at the start.
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The good news comes in several flavours...
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I've settled all my questions about the Canadian vaccine. That took more research, because what is written in the US is not as obviously relevant to us - we took a different path on the vaccine than they did, rather more like the Europeans have for some of their seasonal flu vaccines. I managed to chase down the relevant science and data from relatively reliable sources. The 'relatively' means that I was not reading the experimental data in biological and medical journals. Given my own background - math, physics, chemistry and stats heavy, biology light - I am better off working with the data as the biologists and epidemiologists put it out anyway.
I was looking at the data about vaccination and flu vaccines in general, adjuvants in general, and the issues around mercury, the AS03 adjuvant, autism, GBS, Gulf War syndrome, vaccine reactions, risk levels, swine flu infection and mortality rates, risk factors, and infection reactions. I also tracked down the best estimates I could get for some of the variables for some of the parameters determining estimates for the rates of various possible outcomes.
Where each individual falls in the scheme of things depends on their own personal medical status, age, sex, exposure, access to medical support, willingness to promptly seek help if conditions worsen, etc. And there are still some parameters that are not completely known. But my personal estimate is (and this is 'educated gut feel', based on a fair number of calculations), that the chance of dying, depending on who you are, is about 30 to 1,000 times greater than the risk of significant complications from the flu vaccine). Note, too, that 'significant complications' includes outcomes far less serious than death, some of which may finally resolve to complete or near complete recovery - though they also include lasting disability or death in the most severe cases.
Watching the news (That I should be reduced to trying to perform analysis based on news reports! Oh the shame, the horror! I always did have a certain sympathy for the history teacher who said that we never really understand something until all the people who lived through it were dead, and we could get some unbiased analysis done.).... anyway, watching the news, it does appear that the decisions made by our government, civil service, and medical establishment was excellent. If - and that's still and if, but we are getting closer to managing it day bey day - we squeak through the closing window of opportunity to vaccinate before this thing gets most everybody, that Canada will have managed to pull off a very carefully judged and nuanced strategy.
Certainly by my analysis, we seem to have got one of the best vaccines out of several possible variations, in clearly adequate quantities. If the deliveries can be made in a suitably timely matter, we should congratulate ourselves. While the choices the Americans made let them roll out vaccine a little bit faster, their vaccines are likely to be about 30% less effective in immunizing, and less effective in the face of viral mutations.... and their production difficulties mean that many clinics have already been cancelled, while others are forced to turn away thousands because they both did not have enough vaccine overall, nor enough of the types acceptable for groups with certain medical conditions or of certain ages. It is profoundly saddening to read of people who lined up an hour before the clinic opened only to be turned away because they'd run out of injectable vaccine.
Here, Ontario has already received 700,000+ doses of the vaccine, with more coming. There are no indications we will have problems maintaining an adequate rate of production to get everyone who wants it vaccinated in a relatively short time scale - a few weeks.Medical staff were inoculated starting Friday, and high risk groups started getting vaccinated today, I believe.
(IF YOU ARE AT HIGH RISK, THE TIME TO DO SOMETHING IS NOW!)
The rest of us will be able to get vaccinations (in Toronto) starting a week today. Schedule for the first two weeks, and locations, at the bottom of this message.
Personally, I have gradually eliminated all my concerns about the safety of the vaccine, even though I had started with some personal qualms. Indeed, as a result of my research and analysis, I am now happier about seasonal flu vaccines as well, even though I had long ago decided they were the sensible choice.
To put things in perspective... unless there is a completely unexpected - (in the sense of 'there is no reason for it to happen that we can think of'', not in the 'we haven't thought about it' sense) - your chances of a significant adverse reaction to the swine flu vaccine is somewhat less than your chance of being struck by lightning.
Things keep in mind:
1. You are at higher risk if you are between 15 and 65, or female, or diabetic, have a cardiovascular problems, are asthmatic, pregnant, very obese, or have a compromised immune system. Given the respiratory nature of many of the severe cases, other conditions compromising lung function are probably bad, too.
2. If you are under 65 you probably have no immunity to this virus. If you are older, you have about a 30% chance of resistance.
3. In Canada, 70% of those dying, so far, have been women.
4. If you get this, it is vital to monitor your temperature. The fever can get dangerously high.
5. If this goes bad on you, get help fast, don't try to tough it out. Survival so far has correlated well with early hospitalization. See government health site links (below) for the signs of danger of severe illness.
6. What I have written is largely a synthesis or summary with a bit of analysis. You should really read the government health sites linked below. They have a lot more detail, qualifications I have omitted, and things I have skipped over because of space or because I think I have mentioned them in previous posts. It is not guaranteed that I posted them to you, however. Also, if you have the statistical and analytical background, you may also want to do your own calculations.
7. My observation is that 80% and probably more of what is posted on the Internet about vaccines in general and swine flu vaccines in particular is bullshit. Much of it is bad science, 'broken telephone' reportage based on flawed data, nutbar propaganda, and the
ignorant sharing their misconceptions.
{rant on} It's moments like this when I begin to feel that no one should get out of high school without four years of math and a year each of general science, physics, chemistry, and biology. Unless you already qualify, you probably don't want to know what I think should be required for university graduation! Our world is getting ever more complicated, and we really should be preparing ourselves to understand it.
The volume of sheer ignorance on the Internet tells me we are not doing so.{rant off}
8. If you get vaccinated it will still take about 10 days for the vaccination to become effective. Don't let your guard down!
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Following the links in the recommeded sites is probably a good education on the issues... I suggest you try that.
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Government web sites (recommended):
READ THIS ONE! "WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE RECEIVING THE
H1N1 FLU VACCINE":
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-al erte/h1n1/vacc/know-savoir-eng.php
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-al erte/h1n1/vacc/myth-mythe-eng.php
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-al erte/h1n1/vacc/options-eng.php
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/qa.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccinat ion/gbs_qa.htm
http://www.toronto.ca/health/cdc/h1n1/i ndex.htm
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Good / interesting posts:
http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/can ada/2009/10/26/11531651.html
http://afludiary.blogspot.com/2009/07/f lu-math.html
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/featu res/is-the-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-safe
Prologue: These things are never as short as I intend at the start.
========================================
The good news comes in several flavours...
========================================
I've settled all my questions about the Canadian vaccine. That took more research, because what is written in the US is not as obviously relevant to us - we took a different path on the vaccine than they did, rather more like the Europeans have for some of their seasonal flu vaccines. I managed to chase down the relevant science and data from relatively reliable sources. The 'relatively' means that I was not reading the experimental data in biological and medical journals. Given my own background - math, physics, chemistry and stats heavy, biology light - I am better off working with the data as the biologists and epidemiologists put it out anyway.
I was looking at the data about vaccination and flu vaccines in general, adjuvants in general, and the issues around mercury, the AS03 adjuvant, autism, GBS, Gulf War syndrome, vaccine reactions, risk levels, swine flu infection and mortality rates, risk factors, and infection reactions. I also tracked down the best estimates I could get for some of the variables for some of the parameters determining estimates for the rates of various possible outcomes.
Where each individual falls in the scheme of things depends on their own personal medical status, age, sex, exposure, access to medical support, willingness to promptly seek help if conditions worsen, etc. And there are still some parameters that are not completely known. But my personal estimate is (and this is 'educated gut feel', based on a fair number of calculations), that the chance of dying, depending on who you are, is about 30 to 1,000 times greater than the risk of significant complications from the flu vaccine). Note, too, that 'significant complications' includes outcomes far less serious than death, some of which may finally resolve to complete or near complete recovery - though they also include lasting disability or death in the most severe cases.
Watching the news (That I should be reduced to trying to perform analysis based on news reports! Oh the shame, the horror! I always did have a certain sympathy for the history teacher who said that we never really understand something until all the people who lived through it were dead, and we could get some unbiased analysis done.).... anyway, watching the news, it does appear that the decisions made by our government, civil service, and medical establishment was excellent. If - and that's still and if, but we are getting closer to managing it day bey day - we squeak through the closing window of opportunity to vaccinate before this thing gets most everybody, that Canada will have managed to pull off a very carefully judged and nuanced strategy.
Certainly by my analysis, we seem to have got one of the best vaccines out of several possible variations, in clearly adequate quantities. If the deliveries can be made in a suitably timely matter, we should congratulate ourselves. While the choices the Americans made let them roll out vaccine a little bit faster, their vaccines are likely to be about 30% less effective in immunizing, and less effective in the face of viral mutations.... and their production difficulties mean that many clinics have already been cancelled, while others are forced to turn away thousands because they both did not have enough vaccine overall, nor enough of the types acceptable for groups with certain medical conditions or of certain ages. It is profoundly saddening to read of people who lined up an hour before the clinic opened only to be turned away because they'd run out of injectable vaccine.
Here, Ontario has already received 700,000+ doses of the vaccine, with more coming. There are no indications we will have problems maintaining an adequate rate of production to get everyone who wants it vaccinated in a relatively short time scale - a few weeks.Medical staff were inoculated starting Friday, and high risk groups started getting vaccinated today, I believe.
(IF YOU ARE AT HIGH RISK, THE TIME TO DO SOMETHING IS NOW!)
The rest of us will be able to get vaccinations (in Toronto) starting a week today. Schedule for the first two weeks, and locations, at the bottom of this message.
Personally, I have gradually eliminated all my concerns about the safety of the vaccine, even though I had started with some personal qualms. Indeed, as a result of my research and analysis, I am now happier about seasonal flu vaccines as well, even though I had long ago decided they were the sensible choice.
To put things in perspective... unless there is a completely unexpected - (in the sense of 'there is no reason for it to happen that we can think of'', not in the 'we haven't thought about it' sense) - your chances of a significant adverse reaction to the swine flu vaccine is somewhat less than your chance of being struck by lightning.
Things keep in mind:
1. You are at higher risk if you are between 15 and 65, or female, or diabetic, have a cardiovascular problems, are asthmatic, pregnant, very obese, or have a compromised immune system. Given the respiratory nature of many of the severe cases, other conditions compromising lung function are probably bad, too.
2. If you are under 65 you probably have no immunity to this virus. If you are older, you have about a 30% chance of resistance.
3. In Canada, 70% of those dying, so far, have been women.
4. If you get this, it is vital to monitor your temperature. The fever can get dangerously high.
5. If this goes bad on you, get help fast, don't try to tough it out. Survival so far has correlated well with early hospitalization. See government health site links (below) for the signs of danger of severe illness.
6. What I have written is largely a synthesis or summary with a bit of analysis. You should really read the government health sites linked below. They have a lot more detail, qualifications I have omitted, and things I have skipped over because of space or because I think I have mentioned them in previous posts. It is not guaranteed that I posted them to you, however. Also, if you have the statistical and analytical background, you may also want to do your own calculations.
7. My observation is that 80% and probably more of what is posted on the Internet about vaccines in general and swine flu vaccines in particular is bullshit. Much of it is bad science, 'broken telephone' reportage based on flawed data, nutbar propaganda, and the
ignorant sharing their misconceptions.
{rant on} It's moments like this when I begin to feel that no one should get out of high school without four years of math and a year each of general science, physics, chemistry, and biology. Unless you already qualify, you probably don't want to know what I think should be required for university graduation! Our world is getting ever more complicated, and we really should be preparing ourselves to understand it.
The volume of sheer ignorance on the Internet tells me we are not doing so.{rant off}
8. If you get vaccinated it will still take about 10 days for the vaccination to become effective. Don't let your guard down!
--------------------------------------- LINKS ----------------------------------------
Following the links in the recommeded sites is probably a good education on the issues... I suggest you try that.
--------------------------------------
Government web sites (recommended):
READ THIS ONE! "WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE RECEIVING THE
H1N1 FLU VACCINE":
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-al
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-al
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-al
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/qa.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccinat
http://www.toronto.ca/health/cdc/h1n1/i
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Good / interesting posts:
http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/can
http://afludiary.blogspot.com/2009/07/f
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/featu
